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10 million for USA by bagera3005 10 million for USA by bagera3005
10 million for USA

id like to have tea party’s an N.R.A. get 10 million or more from around usa to stand for us constitution the second amendment rights any right Obama an liberals in congress stand ageist
the us constitution is something I consider sacred and inviolate, its the core of this grand old nation of ours, and part of who and what we are. among the cherished and sacred text are things called amendments, that further our sense of identity and provide a basis of law and order. the second most important amendment, next to freedom of speech, is the second amendment, the right to bear arms.
men and women have shed precious blood in defense of this nation, average citizens. the second amendment guarantees our right to bear arms. it does not say what those arms can or cannot
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Eihort Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
Can I play? Because these arguments all seem rather familiar..... let me think.

Despite countless attempts to negotiate in good faith, Obama Bush has been portrayed in the popular media and right left-wing propaganda as politically incompetent and unwilling to work with the- heh heh heh- GOP Liberals. At every turn, the Republican Democratic Party has done everything short of calling Obama Bush a wuss dumbass and invalid to insure his ideas, good efforts, and personality in general are flattened and mocked."

"I roll my eyes (and once again LOL) at the very mention of a "liberal media gun lobby", because that is just Republican's Democrats way of crying when things don't go their way."

"These days, politicians only get elected because they are businessmen lawyers, and businessmen lawyers have a tendency to attack the competition with everything they have when they are threatened, whether those the cause of those attacks are verified and valid or not. Republicans Democrats elected to Washington D.C. more-or-less take their business liberal policies and shove it down the throats of the nation, and when there is a Democrat Republican in the Oval Office, they cry about the "liberal religious media right" and use their money to or how they don't get paid as much as their previous jobs and increase their already over-inflated Congressional paychecks well beyond their purposes and means."
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FrostLupus Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Something I found out while talking with (more like letured by) my boss who's an ex-cop, there's been 10,000 deaths by gun crimes (high I know but, comared to 30,000+ from abortion, car crashes, and drunk drivers... EACH!) How many of those crimes where comitted by legal gun owners? .7%... 7/10ths of a percent! And thats including suiside.

Something I seen on Facebook, "If you think passing laws banning all guns is the answer... SHUT THE HELL UP! Criminals DON"T pay attention to laws, Dumbass!!!"

Something elnce I found out, I live in western New York, and somebody is trying to pass a state wide law where ALL registerd gun owners residence are publicly displayed on a map for any and every one to see... They already enforced this law around New York City and Buffalo.
Don't know about anyone elnce, but, while I like the green in the aria where I live, I might pack up and move to Wyoming...
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EVAUnit4A Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist
It says a militia- a group of organized and officially-recognized civilians, not regular military- may take up arms in defense of the country.

I don't get collecting guns. In the day and age we are in, there are now many non-lethal ways of protecting oneself, family/friends, and property, so in my view, the average civilian within the borders of the nation do not need to carry firearms. Yes, there are plenty of good, honest, rightful people out there who responsibly collect and use guns, and I have no problem with them.
That being said, I do not see a reason for any non-military group or individual owning something with an ammo clip of more than 10 shots; and most certainly rapid- and/or semi-automatic weaponry!

Unless the USA is invaded by a foreign power (*cough*illegal Mexican immigrants*cough*), I see no need for rapid-fire assault weapons to be sold at legal open markets. It is also less likely that those responsible owners will have their legally-obtained and -used weapons stolen and used in crimes by not-so-responsible individuals, medically disabled-or-not.

But restrictions on the Second Amendment, I agree, will not solve the overall problem of one human killing another. That requires massive changes to the infrastructure and society of a nation, from cradle to grave. Do not live to hate and fear. All life is precious, and we are not born executioners, we have to be pushed to go that far.

I'm not un-patriotic or un-American for saying all this. I'm just a guy who asks simply, "Why can't we all get along?".
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bagera3005 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
i go by what founds also sad with it

They that give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

Arms in the hands of individual citizens may be used at individual discretion...in private self defense." - John Adams

"Those who reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine

"The great principle is that every man be armed....everyone who is able may have a gun." - Patrick Henry

Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed -- unlike citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust people with arms." - James Madison

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom; it is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." - William Pitt, 1783
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EVAUnit4A Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist
We are not part of the Middle East, we are the United States of America, and many of the rights we have in this nation do not exist in any other country in the world. So don't even go there.

Again, in this technological era where pepper spray, tazers, and rubber bullets are the norm and easily obtainable, and upcoming low-level microwave projectors are in the works, why do non-military civilians need metal projectiles of any kind to defend themselves in peacetime?

We elect the people who go to Washington D.C., so it's our own fault if it's going to hell and we don't like what's happening there. So I have little concern about a reversal of power from the people to the government, the very notion upon which our nation was-and-is based!

I am mentally disabled, and therefor could not join the military even if I wanted to. However, I am not so disabled that I could not apply for and obtain a firearm, and then in turn not know what actions I take by discharging that firearm. Indeed, by not having a lethal weapon readily available, if I am to become disturbed emotionally (ex: pissed off like never before), I am less likely to use it to harm someone with it.
I can support this nation even if I am not in the military.
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bagera3005 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
right to bear arms is meant to keep government from becoming a dictatorship like obama has it heading till me how much you like it win the dhs member comes in to take you to camp
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EVAUnit4A Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist
Fine. It's completely off-topic, but just remember that you brought it up first....

Barack Obama won his first election because he was good at negotiating between disputing parties. Not perfect, just good. He came into the White House hoping that he could successfully work his skills between Democrats and Republicans. (I LOL at the acronym "G.O.P.", such a hypocritical and arrogant position; so elitist, so Republican.) No easy task, I agree; probably why he got the Nobel Peace Prize just as his first term was starting (:wtf:). Obama went in there with an open neutral-position policy (yes, I almost said "open mind"), hoping that both parties would come to the table and be able to see through the political posturing. This was his campaign's motto- "change". The Democratic Party came to the table, eager for change.

...And the Republican Party basically responded by saying, "Barack who-?"

Despite countless attempts to negotiate in good faith, Obama has been portrayed in the popular media and right-wing propaganda as politically incompetent and unwilling to work with the- heh heh heh- GOP. At every turn, the Republican Party has done everything short of calling Obama a wuss and invalid to insure his ideas, good efforts, and personality in general are flattened and mocked. I roll my eyes (and once again LOL) at the very mention of a "liberal media", because that is just [a] Republican's way of crying when things don't go their way.
These days, politicians only get elected because they are businessmen, and businessmen have a tendency to attack the competition with everything they have when they are threatened, whether those the cause of those attacks are verified and valid or not. Republicans elected to Washington D.C. more-or-less take their business policies and shove it down the throats of the nation, and when there is a Democrat in the Oval Office, they cry about the "liberal media" and use their money to or how they don't get paid as much as their previous jobs and increase their already over-inflated Congressional paychecks well beyond their purposes and means.

"Dictatorship", you say? Why? Because John Boener (sp?) didn't get his version of the fiscal package through? Because the 112th Congress is regarded as one of the slowest and most stagnat in this nation's history? Because the Obama Administration actually managed to do in three years what the previous Administration couldn't in eight years- catch Osama bin Laden, bring to a halt the financial crisis, begin restoring jobs, and pass major health care reform for the first time in decades? :rofl:

:sarcasm:

Republicans are soooo good at turning a blind eye to their own faults and immorality, using their money and the "liberal media" to get what they want, and just generally holding filthy and unfounded grudges. I'm not a registered Democrat, but regardless the Republican Party and its positions makes me sick to my stomach sometimes.

"Dictatorship"... :giggle:
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silazcarbryck Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Artist
Oh and by BTW bagera3005 that figure you wrote their is 10 billion not 10 million. I dont think computer games cost ten billion. Just ten million.
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silazcarbryck Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Artist
Totally. If I had to live on your country, even for a short period of time for wotk purposes, I would want the right to bear arms, simply because everyone else has them them, and it's a bit like an arms race. But just because I've been crazy, and medically proved so, it does not nescesarily follow that I would be irresposible with a real weapon. When a person becomes unsound of mind, and crazy, it can happen at any time of their life and this is not predictable in any way. However, just as it would make sense for a person who has experience of mental illness, and has learned many things from such expereicne it should not either be made impossible for such a person to me made a director on the board of a company either, merely becuase they are classed as mentally ill. However again, if a person suddenly becomes mentally ill, then it should not be possible for them to maintain thier right to bear arms, or sit on the board for a period of time deemed appropriate by thier medical practitioner whilst they recover from any mental illness. Sucsessful recovery should be defined by themselves and by their consultant psychiatrist by means of observation and other evidence taken into account by the judge of the appropriate appeal court for such coart actions.
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bagera3005 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
right to bear arms is meant to keep government from becoming a dictatorship like obama has it heading
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